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stays in hawaii. he will head back later this evening. he did take out with the first lady to express gratitude with service members on behalf of the nation. >> we know it's not easy, but what we also want you to know is you have the entire country behind you and all of us understand that we would be nowhere without the extraordinary service that you provide. i want to say thank you and we love you. >> kristen welker is live in honolulu. it's early in the morning there, but president obama traveling home to d.c. 10:00 p.m. hawaii time. there doesn't seem to be a lot of urgency rarg the fiscal cliff. are they geared up and ready to work on this? >> i think they are. they are hoping that the pressure to get something done will encourage everyone to come to the table to compromise. if you think about it, they have less than a week to get a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. not a lot of time. how did we get to this point? taking you back to last week, you remember john boehner tried to get that alternative bill through the house. his own bill. he didn't have the support to do it. it fell ap
in hawaii, heading back now to washington. that will happen tonight to work on the fiscal cliff deal. >> the looming fiscal cliff is forcing president obama to cut short his christmas vacation. >> president obama is cutting short his christmas vacation. he is leaving hawaii tonight so that he can be back in washington when congress reconvenes tomorrow. >> laura: so we should believe that by leaving his island enclave that the president was making some big sacrifice for the country? i'm thinking washington, crossing the delaware on a bitter christmas night 1776 before going on to defeat the british in two major battles, that's sacrifice. i, for one, never understood how in good conscious any of these politicians would think about leaving town with so much riding on this cliff hanger? shouldn't they get their work done before they leave town for a break? that's what's expected for most working americans but then again washington politicians have rules of their own. people whose salaries that we pay are called public servants. meaning they verve us. not the other way around. we don't wo
. the president meanwhile is in hawaii and won't be returning until tomorrow. now, normally nothing happening would not be big news in washington. nothing happening is kind of the status quo in washington. getting nothing done is to our political system as saying great is to tony the tiger. it's just kind of what we do now. right now, this week, nothing happening is huge news. the reason is that usually when washington doesn't do anything nothing happens. you do nothing, nothing happens. that's how it goes. in fact that's why people call it doing nothing. after you do it, nothing occurs. if washington doesn't do something, a lot happens. all the bush tax cuts expire, the payroll tax cuts expire. doctors participating in medicare, see their reimbursements cut by more than 25%. good luck getting a doctor then. more than a trillion dollars in spending cuts are triggered. the economy probably falls back into recession, and merry christmas and happy new year from washington to you, the american people. heard about the offers and the counteroffers president obama and house speaker john boehner put
a deal. >> aloha, hawaii. >> to my republican colleagues, the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> they were this close. they were this close to a solution. >> he's going to get tax rate hikes. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are. >> be republican and be conservative and pass a bill that cuts tax. >> boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. >> should anybody's taxes be raised at this point? answer yes or no. >> no. no. ♪ >> we begin as president obama and the senate head back to washington set for one last effort to avert the first fiscal cliff. aloha means good-bye for the president as he packs bound for the white house tonight. the president cutting short his vacation leaving michelle and the girls behind as he gets back to work to try to prevent tax increases and spending cuts due to begin next week. there's just one problem. it appears there would be no house republicans to help hammer out a deal. the gop leadership has not yet called their members back to d.c. and will not be in session tomorr
is hawaii. the house is out of session. the senate is adjourned. they are going to coming back on the 27th. that gives them five days. they have been talking about this fiscal cliff for months. last five days and they have to involves more than a trillion dollars and billions of dollars in tax hikes. how can they get it done? they won't. president on friday gave the all clear for members not to do a big package. he said, look, let's do a stopgap. in other words, let's stop everyone from having their taxes go up and do something smaller so on january 1st it's not just this big looming.... >> does that mean the president could offer extend the tax rates for six months and begin negotiating all over again beginning in january, obviously that would be the usual procrastination in washington, is that what you are talking about here? >> i think what will happen, the president will look for ways to gain the most leverage for himself. the conventional wisdom, democrats really gain power if january 1st comes along and everybody's taxes goes up. it brings revenues in the treasury and raises rates on
me. >> bill: you can't have everything. jesse watters, everybody, there he is. is he going to hawaii. watters is going to hawaii because the president is vacationing there i'm sure the president is going to invite you. you will be out and wacky together. >> aloha. >> factor tip of the day historic occurrence in the book world that you should know about. the tip 60 seconds away. >> factor tip of the day. it is an amazing situation. take a look at the full-page ad in the new york times, celebrating the fact that "killing kennedy" is the number-1 selling book. "killing lincoln," number 2, after 60 weeks in the marketplace. that has never happened before, as far as we know. the "killing ken de" audiobook. number 1. incredible. thank you all. now to the mail... >> distant make me slant story, there is no excuse for it. >> i want it hear the opposing points of view, bill. it's boring to just hear one side, which is why we maintain our number-1 status on the factor. we embrace both sides of the debate.
. >> reporter: it feels like it, the president is in hawaii and congress is out of town and the fiscal cliff negotiations are on hold for the holidays with no agreement in sight. john boehner is throwing the ball in the democrats' court saying the debt is too high, spending out of control and taxes should not go up. in the g.o.p.'s weekly address, he accused the president and the democrats of refusing to accept a reasonable compromise. >> the best way to address our crippling debt is to make significant spending cuts and fix our tax code. to pave the way for long term growth and opportunity. this is an approach most americans support and remains republicans' highest priority. but we only run the house. democrats continue to run washington. >> reporter: the president left town for his traditional christmas in hawaii and he and his family arriving there this morning and he has gotten in a round of golf already. before leaving the white house, he stayed back hayes spe-- scal back his expectations, and he said it is time for compromise. >> president barack obama: we move forward together sore we
are is likely to be here in town and the president has said that he's not going to go on his trip to hawaii, likely as long as he has somebody to negotiate with. we'll see what happens with this weekend. it doesn't sound like at least the key players are going anywhere. >> we'll see if there will be a christmas miracle. that would be nice, wouldn't it? >>> elsewhere on capitol hill, top state officials are promising congress that they will improve security at diplomatic posts around the world, in some cases by the end of the year. hearings are being held today on the deadly of the attack on benghazi, libya. arguing whether more money would help keep american diplomats safe. >> if the state department intends to blame it is long string of failures on inadequate funding, then perhaps it should take a closer look at the money that is being lavished on global climate change, culinary diplomacy programs and other favored projects. in money could have been used for providing diplomatic security, including hiring additional personnel and providing them with adequate equipment and training. >> we'r
quit his job and sold his things and planned to move to hawaii and bought a ticket. now she wonder fist he planned to move. here say counsellor with his high school. >> he was counseling kid assigned to the yard system and helped us with work in the counseling office. i found him to be a polite young man. soft spoken and nice smile. just really surprised that somebody with his personality would do this. >> we are learning more about the victims. 54-year-old cindy ann yullie. she was everyone's friend and a hospice nurse. steve forsythe had two children and loved to coach kids sports. christina is in the hospital in serious condition with bullet fragments in the lung and liver. the 15-year-old will recover, but faces more surgery. >> john mcafee, the software pioneer is back in the u.s. >> i don't even know why i'm here. this morning i was in jail and today here i am. >> a bizarre murder mist rear had this mouth you will on the run and hiding in belize to you go at mally and now miami beach. what's next? we caught up with him. that's ahead. [ female announcer ] what if the next big thing
to hawaii. watters is going to hawaii because the president is vacationing there. >> that's right. >> bill: i'm sure the president will invite you. you'll be out and in why key ke. the tip is in a 6 60 seconds aw. this holiday, share everything. share "not even close." share "you owe me..." share "just right." the share everything plan. sharable data across 10 devices with unlimited talk and text. get a droid razr m by motorola for $49.99. >> bill: factror tip of the day. it's an amazing situation. look at this full page ad in the "new york times" today. celebrating the fact that killing kennedy is the number one non-fiction selling book in the country, killing lincoln, number two after 62 weeks in the marketplace.ng that has never happened before in publishing history in the united states as far as we know. also the killing kennedy audio book, tonp seller this year. the kids book lincoln's last days is number one. trulyio incredible. thank you all. to the mail. steve from washington. bill, of course the network news did not show the violence in michigan. they're all union members. i'm a p
at the gate of a u.s. military gate in khost province. taliban claimed responsibility. >>> hawaii's governor is expected to announce a replacement for late daniel inouye. today, the democratic party listed three finalists. senator inouye's dying wish was for her to take his place in the senate. >>> the winter storm that hit the middle of the country on christmas day is now spreading east, causing up to 19 tornados, that was a potential christmas day record. >>> the storm is also causing massive flight delays and cancellations. at least 1,176 since yesterday morning, and that number is expected to grow throughout the day. the airports most effected by cancellations, indianapolis, dallas-fort worth, chicago o'hare and washington dulles. >>> the dow has closed reflecting the uncertainty with six days to go before potentially devastating impacts to an already fragile economy. joining me now from new york, congressman jerry natter. thank you so much for being on the program. >> it's a pleasure. >> how much of a worry is there amongst your constituents there in new york city that going over the cl
? then paradise lost. will president obama leave hawaii behind the day after christmas if a deal is in the works and the election hangover. new comments from one of mitt romney's sons that you might describe as puzzling. what do they really mean? and the gun battle rages on. new reports on why nothing may get done even after the sandy hook tragedy. >>> a massive tax hike and spending cuts -- republicans and democrats continue to point fingers in opposite directions, hinting that talks could go into the new year. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are, and i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. he senses a victory at the bottom of the cliff. >> we only have nine days left here. when are we going to get serious about actual solutions? i would welcome john to tell me. he says he wants a solution. give us one, john. >> meanwhile, president obama is spending christmas in hawaii where he and the first lady attended the holiday memorial service for the late u.s. senator from daniel inouye. >> white house correspondent kristen welker. kristen, obviously
and hawaii. officials tell cnn that the working assumption is that the north koreans got outside help from others, including iran. so today's launch is raising some huge concerns. let's go to our pentagon correspondent barbara starr. i assume they are pretty surprised and alarmed by the successful launch over at the pentagon? >> look, wolf, because of everything you just mentioned, indeed, the u.s. military, the intelligence committee have been watching north korea for days now 24/7 because they did expect to launch and they announced it. but they were having technical problems so a lot thought it wouldn't happen until next week. when it happened last week, there was a surprise. the north korean anchor's excitement was clear. >> announcing the launch of a long-range rocket that put a north korean satellite to orbit around the earth. they clearly achieved one goal raising everyone's anxiety level. >> this is a step towards the ability to build a long-range missile that could strike parts of the united states. >> but i don't think this really was a great advance forward. i think in terms of
. criminal charges against him were dropped. >>> the state of hawaii is no longer 50th in voter turnout. it's tied for 49th with west virginia. this time around, they've got company at the bottom. both west virginia and hawaii tenned out 44.2% of its voters in 2012. >>> the duke of cambridge decided to cancel a scheduled appearance at a military event to be with his pregnant wife. katherine has been battling acute morning sickness. they are supposeded to attend the royal premiere of "the hobbit" tomorrow but the daily mail says katherine may not be well enough to go. >> if he skips the hobbit for her, that is true love. i'll be impressed. >> thank you. 17 minutes past the hour. time for early reads, local news making national headlines. we're starting with the charlotte news and observer in north carolina where a federal judge ruled the state cannot issue choose life license plates without offering ones with different view points. he called it viewpoint discrimination and violation of the first amendment. pro-choice advocates and the aclu praised that decision but the ruling suggests, they
discussed that. how does the president, planning a vacation in hawaii for 20 days. the president sends geithner to meet with the republicans yesterday. >> i don't think that's fair. >> sean: he's a tax cheat. >> he made a mistake and he paid and everyone -- [ talking over each other ] >> sean: i never cheated on my taxes i promise. obama would have caught me by now. look at his proposal, 1.6 trillion tax cut. increase rates on the wealthy only. new stimulus program 150 billion. and he wants a blank cheque that. is not a serious proposal bob. >> it is not. you talk to people in the real world, not in washington, but in the real world, they say the numbers and how this is done, i don't give a damn. i just want them to fix it. what the republicans should do is say these are the things we are going to fix. these are the numbers and this is our proposal. >> sean: wait a minute, i don't think you are being fair in one sense. the republicans said to the chagrin of a lot of conservatives that revenue is on the table. obama has said, my way or the highway. his proposal, his budget plan that nob
a stubborn fever. >> joe biden on hand to swear in brian shot as the hawaii newest senator. he was selected to fill the vacancy. >>> after the attack on benghazi there was widespread speculation some would lose their job after the security failure but it has nod happened. and john kerry's nomination as secretary of state could hang in the balance. peter doocy has the pieces together. >> accountability has been brought to bear with regard to the individuals who are, who are senior. >> accountability apparently does not come from a pink slip, because none of the four state department officials placed on legislative leave for failures in the run township the september 11 terror -- runup to the september 11 terrorist attack lost their job. according to a new york post. the spokesperson said the secretary accepted eric boswell decision to resign. as assistant secretary for diplomatic security effective immediately. the other three individuals were relieved of the current duties. chairwoman of the house foreign affairs committee now says that response from the state department is purposefully mis
will plunge the economy back into recession. president obama flies back from hawaii tonight to be ready if the senate comes back with a plan when it returns to work tomorrow. and house leaders are huddling with members on stand-by to return. senior congressional correspondent dana bash is following all of it for us. what are you hearing? >> there was a conference call of course members of the house leadership even, they're back in their districts, but there was a conference call today among those house republican leaders trying to figure out if and when the house should come back into session. two republican sources tell me they did not make a decision on this call. it's still up in the air. and a big reason for that is if anything can get done in the next six days, the ball is in the senate's court. the capitol is a ghost town. neither chamber in session. an eerie calm since the fiscal cliff only congress has the power to avert is less than one week away. from their home, senate democratic leaders is trying to figure out if the president's scaled back bill can pass congress at the 11th
days left to act. gop still mia. joining me now from hawaii, kristin welker. was the president expected? >> we did expect that given there was no deal on the fiscal cliff that he would have to return early from his hawaiian vacation. he will be flying out late or this evening. the first lady and the first daughters continuing his hawaiian vacation. he will find himself in a similar situation. the negotiations are largely deadlocked. just to give you a sense of how we got to where we are, if you go back to last week, it seemed like the house and speaker were getting close to getting a big deal that would have included tax reform and deficit reduction. that fell apart. house speaker john boehner tried to get his own bill through the house. he realized he didn't have enough votes for that. that fell apart as well. the ball is in the senate's court. according to an aide, senate majority leader harry read will not bring a bill to the floor unless he believes he will not have the support to get it passed or at least not to block it. that is the strategy right now. president obama will be work
, shortly, saturday, flying to hawaii, as they should. and then we've got holidays. and i don't think anybody around here is going to be dealing with. we have a 72 hour period in the house. i don't understand how we're going to be able to do this before the end of the year. so on january 2nd, we're talking about $55 billion cut in non-defense and a $65 billion cut in defense. that is devastating to the economy. and it's also going to be devastating to the american people who are sitting around with those tax extenders falling away from their pocketbooks. including unemployment benefits. >> we've seen the defense and non-defense kick in in terms of reductions. and, as you said, they have a colleague who was a longer-serving senate -- senator's funeral. they're out of there on saturday. >> i think we're walking around on the edge right now. and we're not mountain goats. so we don't walk well on the cliffs. >> all you need is a slip. and we are -- we seem to have on slippery shoes at this point. congressman emanuel cleveland and congressman joe walsh, good to be with you here this evenin
served in congress since hawaii became a state in 1959 died on monday at the age of 88. and tomorrow his body will lie in state at the capitol rotunda. a decorated second world war veteran. we give thanks for the service of both these men. stay with us. we'll have much more ahead. ♪ ♪ if it wasn't for you ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove [ male announcer ] zales is the diamond store. save 25 percent off an amazing selection storewide, now through monday. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. [ malennouncer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> the president acts on gun violence in america while the nra searches for something to say. here are today's top lines. it takes a nation. >> i have asked the vice president to come up with a set of concrete proposals. >> myself and other americans really want to know if our babies are safe. this is my baby. >> if that's his baby, he need
seek it in hawaii have a steep price to pay. the rainbow state tops a new cold well banker list of the most expensive states for home buyers. the average listing for a four bedroom two bath home going for nearly $750,000. massachusetts is about $300,000 less but still the second most expensive state. california is the third priceyest with a $430,000 price tag on average. the most affordable listings, nebraska where the average listing is about $145,000. iowa and georgia ranked second and third least expensive. those are your number ones here on "weekends with alex witt." tht a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. [ man thinking ] oh, this gas. those antacids aren't working. oh no, not that, not here! [ male announcer ] antacids don't relieve gas. gas-x is designed to relieve gas. gas-x. the gas xperts. share "not even close." share "you owe me..." share "just right." the share everything plan. sharable data across 10 devices with
. you have a shell company, don't you? >> i do. it's in a foreign country called hawaii. it sells shells. it's a legitimate shell company. i have made hundreds of dollars off it. i make underwear -- uncomfortable, but sexy. [chuckles] >> sean: okay. greg gutfeld, sharing a lot more than we ever thought he would share. more than we care to know. or too much information. tmi. >> that's what it stands for? i never knew! >> sean: all right. good to see you my irish brother. coming up next, an american christian pastor jailed inside iran, visiting his family. we will explain what happened and hear from his wife and her attorney, coming up next, right attorney, coming up next, right here on "hannity.y.y.y.y. i always wait until the last minute. can i still ship a gift in time r christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express by december 22nd for christmas delivery. >> sean: welcome back to "hannity." a 32-year-old american pastor has been detained by one of iran's most notorious prisons since late septemb
paid tribute today to the late senator daniel inouye of hawaii. a crowd filled the national cathedral in washington for the service honoring the japanese- american who became a war hero and served in the senate more than 50 years. president obama recalled watching inouye during the televised watergate hearings in 1973. >> to see this man, this senator, this powerful, accomplished person who was not a central cast. and the way he commanded the respect of an entire nation, i think it hinted to me what might be possible in my own life. >> sreenivasan: inouye died monday at the age of 88. a pre-christmas storm rumbled across the great lakes today, toward canada. the storm had closed roads and grounded more than 1,000 flights on thursday. but as conditions improved, chicago's o'hare international and other airports returned to normal for one of the busiest days of the year. elsewhere, parts of wisconsin, iowa, and michigan dug out from more than a foot of snow. the storm was blamed for at least nine deaths in half a dozen states. the day that some pegged as the "end of the world" came and
i appreciate your patience. >>> inouye's body will be returned to hawaii tomorrow. that's going to wrap it up for me. i appreciate your time. thanks so much for joining me. i'll see you back here on monday. don't go anywhere, though. "now" comes up next, and guest hosting ari. >> we do have a strong panel today. joining me is msnbc contributor and georgetown university professor michael eric dyson. salon.com's irene carmon, and white house correspondent for the huffington post, and the daily show co-creator and author lynn winstead. we are just one week after the tragic shooting in connecticut, and the executive vice president of the nra has now broken his silence. he says it's the good guys against the bad guys, and everyone should have a gun. i disagree. if you look today at the speech that we showed just earlier here on msnbc, it's the first time since the newtown mass murder that the nra has spoken out in a speech that brought out the protesters. >> see there? several protesters interrupting. the nra did not focus on regulating semiautomatic weapons in this address, an addre
-bye to hawaii senator daniel inouye. there's a special memorial service. the senate chaplain will deliver a sermon and you see president obama wiping tears from his eyes. he was the second longest serving senator in history. he served hawaii since 1959. that's where president obama grew up so he's well familiar with daniel inouye. he was awarded medal of honor after losing an arm in world war ii. it was at a hospital in recovery that he met bob dole. senator inouye was 88 years old. [ bell tolling ] [ bell tolling ] >> i am resurrection and i am life says the lord. whoever has faith in me shall have life even though he died, and everyone who has life and has committed himself to me in faith shall not die forever. bayer aspirin was the first thing the emts gave me. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. [ woman ] learn from my story. [ nyquil bottle ] just reading your label. wait...you relieve nasal congestion? sure don't you? [ nyquil bottle ] dude! [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom night
times." host: the code of hawaii -- the governor of hawaii possibly been the replacement for daniel inouye, reported by cbs news. picking up on the remaining time and before the next senate, comes in. president obama spoke on friday and talked about the senator's service and he might not have considered a career in public service had not been for the senator. [video clip] >> he was a proud democrat and a proud american. were it not for those insights planted in my head at the age of 11 in between is the land and a trip to yellowstone -- between disneyland -- i'm not have considered a career in public service and might not be standing here today. i think it's fair to say that daniel inouye was perhaps my earliest political inspiration. ost: senator daniel in a ouye passed away earlier this year. we're looking at your political hero of 2012. mitch is from tennessee on the democrat's line. caller: i just want to say that my political hero had to be bernie sanders. he started talking about not paying taxes on the high end. i say bernie sanders got it right. ask anybody about the rich pa
constitution. >>> and hawaii democrat daniel inouye is in the hospital, he has recently been seen using oxygen on the floor of the senate. he served in world war ii and won the medal of honor and witnessed the japanese bombing of pearl harbor and will mark 50 years in the senate on january 3rd. we hope he is recovering nicely. >>> parts of the country could see more rough weather. this one in volusia county, florida. two others in louisiana and alabama. reports as many as a dozen total. most of the south saw bad weather from rain to heavy winds. alexandra steele tracking weather for us this morning. good morning. >> good morning to you. 13 reports of tornadoes thus far. over 47 damage reports and you can see here, this was the line of a storm that moved through with the arctic front. the warm, moist air ahead of it. colder drier air behind it, and these are showing where you the tornado reports were. we have had two confirmed thus far, though. let me take you, and show you where one was. in baker, louisiana, an ef-1 tornado. winds, 90 miles per hour. roofs off homes, even commercial buildings
in hawaii to cost the taxpayers $4 million in bank he is just going to blame the republicans and let the taxes go up on everybody. host: grace says -- guest: medicare's costs have grown slower than the private insurance market. even though it is a big expense for the federal government, it would be even more expensive if we were growing at the same rate of private insurance and bank medicare has millions and millions of patients and to negotiate much lower rates. on the flip side of that, the issues we talked about earlier about doctors not wanting to participate in the medicare has a huge population so they are able to streamline a lot of the education costs. host: another comment on our twitter page -- guest: malpractice is an issue that came up in the health care debate but did not move for that much. it is one solution that might make doctors more comfortable in their practice, that they are now worried about getting sued all the time. most of the estimates show it would be relatively small in the world of health care spending. it is something that comes up in the debate. host: a
in hawaii after he felt a tug on his leg. you know where this is going. 61-year-old tom kennedy looked down and saw a shark had ahold of him. >> he released me. and so i started swimming as fast as i could. i was still guessing 100 yards from my board. obviously i wanted to get out of water i could. >> so he made it back to his boat where his friends helped him to shore. his wound is serious but is he expected to be okay. stevie wonder canceling a performance because of tensions in the mideast. he was scheduled to play a benefit for the israeli defense forces but after the u.n. decision this week to upgrade palestine's status to a nonmember observer. they suggested he back out wonder serves as official messenger for peace for the u.n. he said he would make donation supporting israeli and palestinian children with disabilities. those are the headlines. oh boy, clayton. juliet's kind of segment and dave's segment because is he glue ten-free. only 24 more days until christmas. never too early to plan your holiday meals. this morning we have twice the ideas for breakfast. twice. joining us now
be interested to see. he was the pros -- supposed to leave for hawaii for his christmas vacation today. i do not think it would happen. this morning around 10:30 a.m. for the national -- at the national cathedral for the funeral. i did not know what he does next. democrats have been saying all along they were prepared to go over the cliff if they were not presented with a deal they thought was acceptable. i think it is possibly even at this point looks likely to happen. and then they would have to move on what is next. they always believed from a strategic perspective that if they went over the cliff, all of the taxes would expire and any thing the house republicans would pass from then on out would be a tax cut as opposed to a tax increase. this has been a rhetorical proposition that was put out by even senator patty murray as early as last july. the funny thing what is when you heard top republican talkers and leadership discussing the vote that was supposed to be happening last night that is how they phrased it. not a tax hike but letting rates rise on an income where it was already set t
, connecticut, new hampshire. i think hawaii is on that list too. one, two, three, four, five. and the district of columbia plus the state of this year just added, maryland and washington plus, remember the president of the united states himself, who used to be on the fence on this issue has now come out and said he full ly sports same-sex marriage. the obama administration has refused to defend the defense of marriage act. john boehner and eric cantor are still doing it, but the administration is not. the department of justice is not. they said they don't believe in the defense of marriage act any more and they wereare not going to defend it and they hope congress over turns it. george will said here is one of the reasons why politically it has changed. >> they can say it's now safe to look at this because there is something like an emerging consensus. quite literally, the opposition to day garianingmarriage is dying. it's old people. >> it's old people. they are dying off. >> that's an accurate way to put it. >> bill: you talk to young people t
over the cliff. >> mike, what happens to the president's plans? he usually goes to hawaii for christmas and new year's. he'd have to stay in washington. >> i don't know that. because the president's not going to want to look like he's a captive of washington. he did stay here once before and then extended his vacation. that was part of why i've been predicting december 23rd. but these stages of grief by both sides are just going slower than they expected. they're doing the dance, but it's just so slow. so i think it's possible that nothing happens next week, that next week we get a real proposal from either side. but they're not making -- we've been talking about this for months and months. but the guys in the actual room have only been doing this for a couple days. and they're not ready to concede yet. they're still at their sort of starting gate positions. >> mike, is there any sort of quiet blue dog action on this on either the right or the left, more moderate members who are talking maybe offline who may step into the breach if there is one? >> there's a little bit, and there's cert
drive. probably one of the rainiest highways in the country. and our friends in hawaii, even they're dealing with some rain and thunderstorms from maui all the way through. so today's forecast for your wednesday, it's still mild for this time of the year especially the southern half of the country. but we've returned to normal in the northern plains. still no snowstorms on the way across the country over the next three to four days. average temperatures to slightly above. if you're dreaming of a white christmas this may be a difficult year to get it on the ground. you're watching "morning joe." [ male announcer ] citi turns 200 this year. in that time there've been some good days. and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achievement. and the next great idea could be yours. ♪ >>> of the congressional committee chairs selected thus far for the next congress they are all white males. >> oh,
ever have your mustache slashed. >> never trust a black man unless he's born in hawaii without a mustache. >> gene robinson, do you concur? >> is any mustache safe in the world these days? i'm scared. i'm scared. >> i don't think it is. well, congressman, how are we doing in this effort to avoid the fiscal cliff? do you think it may -- we're encouraged around here at least that the president and john boehner are going to be talking face to face. >> are we naive? >> a little bit. >> sad without a second's hesitation. >> wow! >> look, it's a simple deal, but the circumstances are not simple. and i think we're going to get a deal, on my optimistic side, we're going to get a deal. my pessimistic side is it may be later. we may do something between now and january 1st, but there is no way we're going to do what needs to be done between now and december 31st. >> is that a good thing in terms of doing the longer term? >> we've got to deal with the payroll tax, or many americans are going to end up losing about $1,000 to $1,500 a year out of their checks. we've got to figure out how to
arrives on time. 72 degrees he leaves in hawaii. 38 degrees he arrives to here in washington. and believe me, they're going to need to bring some of that sunshine here because there's certainly not a lot of smiles on the faces of the lawmakers as they come back. >> kurt andersen. >> chuck, this is kurt andersen. i've heard you talk how important you think it is to get a deal done in order to establish a level of comity, that's c-o-m-i-t-y. >> reporter: the other comedy is worth talking about, too. >> are you of the mind that there will be a deal sooner rather than later, like by next tuesday, or a grand bargain in order to sort of get the debt ceiling and other things out of the way for a while? >> reporter: no, i think they've got to get the large deal. and here's the thing, i still think they could get a large deal, you know, the debt ceiling -- using the debt ceiling as leverage, i think politically, by the way, republicans had totally misreading the landscape on this up with. if they think that's a good idea come february to use the debt ceiling, raising that as leverage, again, i thi
through saturday morning because a bunch of them are going to hawaii for senator inouye's funeral. >> right. >> so that shuts down any work to be done on the 22nd, the 23rd and 24th. so then they have to come back the 27th -- as little time there is, there's even less. that's my point. >> do you think that the republicans are in any way, shape or form playing differently than they have before? has anything changed? are they -- is there -- >> yeah, i think the one thing that's changed, i don't think the republican party is united. and if boehner messes around too long, i think you'll start hearing more and more senate republicans in the rank and file start to complain loudly. >> that's the other question. >> you're hearing them grumble right now, but the grumble is going well, they're all looking at it on the bright side. well, maybe boehner's trying to bring along the conservative. they're, like, giving him this last moment. >> that's the other thing. remember in 2011 when it looked really bleak right before the debt ceiling, it was mitch mcconnell who stepped in and tried to find
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